everybody stop stealing music immediately !!!
>Anonym hat gesagt...
>So basically you like to collect MP3s because you don't have to PAY for them, right? Wow, what a way to support the music we all love.
>So basically you like to collect MP3s because you don't have to PAY for them, right? Wow, what a way to support the music we all love.
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As I wrote I basically collect MP3 because they are easier to handle.
However, I have about 8.000 LPs and 6.000 CDs standing right behind me and remember having paid for them. I think that's support for the record industry enough. Howw many did you buy so far ?
As I wrote I basically collect MP3 because they are easier to handle.
However, I have about 8.000 LPs and 6.000 CDs standing right behind me and remember having paid for them. I think that's support for the record industry enough. Howw many did you buy so far ?
I can understand supporting guys like Lukas Kendall. But supporting John Williams ? Didn't know he is short of money. O.k., let's take an unknown composer. How much does he get when I buy an CD ? 10 cent ? So if all the people who download a certain score by this unknown composer he is probably 30 bucks richer. Big deal.
Oh yes, I forgot, the Warner and the Bertelsman brothers are starving. Perhaps I should make a donation.
Yes, I know, it's the principle. You are not allowed to steal a nickel from Bill Gates. Day by day people are starving, fight in wars and get murdered right where they live, but it's important to care about some MP3 of music which no one cares about except some strange guys like us.
Oh dear.
posted by Omega at 9:51 AM
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Good point, Omega....Add to that that much of what some of us post on our blogs is either an album which has been long out-of-print and was never reissued on CD, or is an original recording rip from a source to provide a recording of something which never had a legit industry release in the first place.
Years ago, George Harrison woefully sang about the disgrace of "I Me Mine." He was in the midst of the "me" generation, soon represented by magazines like "SELF."
Over at allofMP3.com, where arrogant Russian thugs take all of Western music, their "logic" and defense is the RIAA is a "record cartel," and they, the allofMP3.com thugs, have every right to take music without permission and sell it.
If that sounds disgusting, then think of the bloggers from America, the UK, France, Sweden, Germany, Holland, Sweden, South America and other countries that not only recognize copyright but human rights.
What are they doing? Same thing. They've decided every hit from the Billboard charts should be given away free, every Beach Boys song, all the newest songs even before they hit stores. Why? "I Me Mine." Cheapness. Selfishness. Thoughtlessness.
The only way to deal with children who don't listen is to lock them down with a "time out," take away their toys, or spank them. This is what is happening, and if that's what it takes, so be it.
In the case of the arrogant Russians, the RIAA has filed suit demanding "$150,000 for each instance of copyright infringement." Joining with the RIAA, the U.S. Government and world leaders are threatening Russia's admittance to the World Trade Organization. The U.S. Department of Commerce has gotten involved. So have agencies from Italy, Germany, Denmark and many, many other countries around the world.
This is no longer about prankish, deluded fools swapping a few tunes. It's about the wreckage of companies and the destruction of lives. It's about Tower Records folding, it's about thousands of people reduced to unemployment lines and having to find new jobs or extra part-time jobs because the royalties are gone and sales are flat.
Every smirking ninny with a "Donate to Paypal" banner on his blog is part of the problem.
Every underhanded swine skulking in a forum or e-mailing his conspirators with huge lists of links to every single album an artist ever made is part of the problem.
Every smug and stupid fool who writes "this album is out of print therefore copyright no longer exists" is part of the problem.
Every person who says "don't let the bastards win" and "we love your downloads" and "keep fighting" is just a cheap, thoughtless, dim-witted short-sighted fool and most definitely part of the problem.
U.S. District Court. The description for allofMP3.com is "notorious online black market...poster child for Internet music piracy."
That same description applies to some of the obnoxious bloggers out there who shrug and say "oh, maybe what I do is a gray area." No, it is not. Copying copyrighted material is against the law. That's in black and white. Abusing a CD clearly marked "All Rights Reserved" is a crime. Copying a DVD when there's an FBI and Interpol notice unavoidable when you try to watch the film, is a crime.
I ME MINE will get you JAIL TIME and/or a FINE.
Just as authorities monitor everyone from the corner drug dealer to the Internet terrorist, bet that they have screen captures, ISP information, all records that Rapidshare, Uploaded.to, Megaupload and other businesses MUST turn over, and all the weaponry needed to fight back.
This is not about, "Hey, man, I wanna hear Eric Clapton stuff and I don't wanna pay for it, let's share." It's about an epidemic that is clearly crippling the music world and those who earn their living from music.
The year-end issue of ROLLING STONE noted the destruction of Tower Records with one caption. The caption mentioned that the stores couldn't compete with what was being tossed around free on the Internet.
The music industry has learned a lesson from all those Towers falling. Bloggers with huge lists of downloads on their pages are acting like terrorists. They use terrorist phrases. They say terrorist things. They encourage their downloaders to "go after" people who uphold copyright law. They engage in plots so they can continue to steal from the musicians they claim to love.
"Don't let the bastards win," somebody will comment.
No. When a blogger steps over the line into hundreds of illegal downloads, or uses Paypal and Google ads, THERE is your bastard.
Fuck you, Mitch.
your math is WRONG about what a film composer makes on each CD sold. Generally it is about $1.50 or so for a $15.00 CD,,, So if 1000 CDs are sold (or stolen) then it is about $1500.. What can you do with $1500? I know I could use it to help keep my lights on or pay rent.. Well, the truth is that it hurts young new film composers (like myself) mostly. Generally, we don't make much and because of that any "extra" money we can make can be the difference between survivng until the next film comes or giving up and trying a different career.
I enjoy these sites primarily for the rare and OOP CD and I DO NOT download anything that is readily available. This really should be its function even if KKD Land seems to think its OK to post everything!
I know my heart will break when my CD shows up on someone's BLOG,,, it is simply a sad state of affairs when it comes to releasing a CD and probabaly will simply stop the production of filmscore CDs in the future--- then what will you listen to when it comes to film scores? Old stuff? Try to find Bootlegs of the isolated score? Wait to find a composer's promo ment to get him more work with producers / directors?
In the end-- it is us young guys who suffer and struggle to survive this career we have chosen to follow,, and all you do is support it.
If the composer is young you REALLY should not download or post the score (not that I advocate stealing from John Williams either).
I think EVERYONE'S perception is off when it comes to what film composers make---- it ain't what yo think! Even the biggest 10 guys who do make great money pale in comparison to the actors who acted in the film or other creatives on a film.
I agree with you, anonym. That's why i bought cds from the recent scores (or still avaiable in print) when i want one. I also agree the young composers are probably the most hurted.
I love music, and i bought about 3/5 cds per month (i'm not rich and i couldn't do more). But in the States cds prices are not expensive, and i think i'll buy more with that price. In France, where i live, new cds are mostly about €18/20, so in $ it'll be about +/- 10 bucks more - for a cd! It's not the download of the old/rare stuff who kills music, it's the big price and all the s*** avaiable now!.....
Oh, and one last thing... I was in love with some music i've heard on french tv... It was a doc about Ancient Egypt, and the composers's name (there where 2) was listed at the end... I was lucky to found their website, and ask if there's a way to have the music (i was ready to pay for this, by the way!). Few days after, i got a nice reply from one of the composer, saying that they didn't own the rights for using it... It was the filmamkers' company......
true,, composers do not own the PUBLISHING rights but they do own 1/2 the copyright unless they were stupid and gave it away. That doesn't mean they are hurt by someone downloading it for free if it gets released. I am about to have my 2nd CD released and i am very worried about the outcome. Also being a new composer I hardly make much of a living so it is a concern to me. So much hard work writing it and having the orchestra record it can all get lost in the perception us composer make good money--- WE DON'T! only the top 10 guys make money the rest of us are bottom-feeders.. Living hand-to-mouth.
You right, anonym.. if it gets released! Sadly it tells everything, because most of the new composers haven't got any (official) release... :(
And if the new composers couldn't make a lot of money with movie music, i'm thinking about the ones who compsed for videogames... Most of the time they've got another job because they haven't got money, or it's so little that you couldn't pay the bills....
Last but not least, i bought Gary Pozner's The Quest For King Arthur because i've heard (and download) few tracks for free on amazon.com...The cd is not avaiable in France at all, glad i've found mine with amazon, because the music is great!
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